# Big Shot Bob – Shoot Around Ep 131 – Phil and I Never Had a Conversation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521/big-shot-bob-shoot-around-ep-131-phil-and-i-never-had-a-conversation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521/big-shot-bob-shoot-around-ep-131-phil-and-i-never-had-a-conversation.md Podcast: [Big Shot Bob Pod with Robert Horry](https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521) Published: 2026-05-01T05:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://play.cdnstream1.com/s/radiocustoms/big-shot-bob-pod-with-ro-ea6f0f/big-shot-bob-shoot-aroun-b07b39 Audio file: https://pds.cdnstream1.com/p/radiocustoms/big-shot-bob-pod-with-ro-ea6f0f/big-shot-bob-shoot-aroun-b07b39/audio.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521/episodes/big-shot-bob-shoot-around-ep-131-phil-and-i-never-had-a-conversation Duration seconds: 1876 ## Resource It's Friday and the Big Shot Bob crew is back with Episode 131 of Shoot Around — the weekly bonus show where Robert Horry, Rob Jenners, and B-Dog Brandon Harper dig into the questions YOU send in and whatever's on their minds.   This week kicks off with a debate born from the new Michael Jackson biopic hitting theaters: Start, Bench, Cut — MJ era edition. The Thriller era (1982–85), the Bad era (1987–89), and the Dangerous era (1991–94) are all on the table. Which era do you start? Which do you bench? Which do you cut? The guys break down their picks, argue over the greatest MJ music videos of all time (Smooth Criminal vs. Remember the Time), debate whether Chris Tucker was actually IN Smooth Criminal (he wasn't), and Harper goes deep on the Ghost mini-movie that almost nobody's seen. The verdict? Unanimous love for Thriller, but serious disagreement on whether Bad or Dangerous gets the bench.   Then the guys jump into the all-time greatest NBA coaches debate, sparked by Pat Riley making it clear at 81 years old that he has zero plans to retire or step aside. Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Gregg Popovich, Don Nelson, Lenny Wilkins, Red Auerbach — who makes the cut? Robert Horry gives a unique firsthand perspective on Phil Jackson, including the detail that Phil literally never spoke to him during their championship runs together. There's also the Del Harris comparison — same roster, completely different results — and what that says about coaching being as much about managing personalities as drawing up plays.   A Reddit user's anti-tanking beer pricing proposal gets a quick airing, and then the crew weighs in on Diego Pavia going undrafted after representing himself at the NFL Draft — no agent, no deal. Rob… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521/episodes/big-shot-bob-shoot-around-ep-131-phil-and-i-never-had-a-conversation/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/big-shot-bob-pod-with-robert-horry-2229521/big-shot-bob-shoot-around-ep-131-phil-and-i-never-had-a-conversation.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.