# The Power of Psychodrama for Recovery: Karen Carnabucci’s Innovative Approach to Therapy Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/beyond-binge-eating-7099183/the-power-of-psychodrama-for-recovery-karen-carnabucci-s-innovative-approach-to-therapy Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/beyond-binge-eating-7099183/the-power-of-psychodrama-for-recovery-karen-carnabucci-s-innovative-approach-to-therapy.md Podcast: [Beyond Binge Eating](https://stenobird.com/podcast/beyond-binge-eating-7099183) Published: 2025-09-11T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: http://www.BeyondBingeEating.com Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/065697a7-1e00-4f4e-9155-a695847fec5b.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/beyond-binge-eating-7099183/episodes/the-power-of-psychodrama-for-recovery-karen-carnabucci-s-innovative-approach-to-therapy Duration seconds: 2982 ## Resource In this episode, I sit down with Karen Carnabucci—licensed clinical social worker, experiential therapist, and author of Healing Eating Disorders with Psychodrama—to explore how action-based, experiential methods can create profound transformation in eating disorder recovery. Here’s what we cover in the episode: • What psychodrama actually is—and why it’s so powerful for people with eating disorders • The role of embodiment in disrupting disordered patterns and supporting real behavioral change • How action methods like “the empty chair” and “walking the clock” help clients see their habits, choices, and stories from new angles • Why practicing recovery roles (like abstinence, nourishment, or self-compassion) in the body is often more effective than simply talking about them • How therapists can warm up clients to experiential work without pushing them out of their comfort zone • Simple psychodramatic tools anyone can try—even on their own—to access insight, strength, and clarity Karen’s approach is creative, compassionate, and deeply rooted in both clinical wisdom and real-world healing. Whether you’re a clinician, a person in recovery, or simply curious about how deeper change happens—this conversation is a must-listen. 00:00 – Intro 02:50 – How Kristina found out about Psychodrama 4:23 – What is psychodrama? 6:53 – The role of embodiment in healing disordered eating 10:02 – Practicing recovery patterns in the body, not just in theory 11:04 – The disconnect in disordered eating and how the body drives automatic behaviors 11:58 – Karen’s path from journalist to psychodrama therapist 13:24 – What are some surprising insights clients might gain from psychodrama versus talk therapy? 15:20 – A client’s breakthrough moment with lemon meringue pie 16:35 – Common psychodrama… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/beyond-binge-eating-7099183/episodes/the-power-of-psychodrama-for-recovery-karen-carnabucci-s-innovative-approach-to-therapy/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/beyond-binge-eating-7099183/the-power-of-psychodrama-for-recovery-karen-carnabucci-s-innovative-approach-to-therapy.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.