# Why Do So Few Commercial Real Estate Sellers Do 1031 Exchanges? A Conversation with Jon Hilley Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176/why-do-so-few-commercial-real-estate-sellers-do-1031-exchanges-a-conversation-with-jon-hilley Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176/why-do-so-few-commercial-real-estate-sellers-do-1031-exchanges-a-conversation-with-jon-hilley.md Podcast: [Between Two Chairs - Demystifying Commercial Real Estate](https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176) Published: 2026-06-04T19:05:00+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/betweentwochairs/2879834 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/204235/2879834/betweentwochairs/2026_06_02_17_48_22_6f812906-ae39-46e8-a1e3-18b60fcb8d1e.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176/episodes/why-do-so-few-commercial-real-estate-sellers-do-1031-exchanges-a-conversation-with-jon-hilley Duration seconds: 2993 ## Resource What do Scrooge McDuck , The Square Grouper , Goldman Sachs, commercial real estate and taxes have in common? The answer is Jon Hilley , founder of 1031 Specialists . In this episode, we dive into why so few sellers do 1031 exchanges, what differentiates 1031 Specialists from other intermediaries and the Golden Strategy. Jon brings his wide range of experience, curiosity and his "Client Happiness Project" to elevate the 1031 experience. "We are in the joy business". FEA Economic Impact Studies of 1031 Exchanges ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176/episodes/why-do-so-few-commercial-real-estate-sellers-do-1031-exchanges-a-conversation-with-jon-hilley/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-two-chairs-demystifying-commercial-real-estate-6318176/why-do-so-few-commercial-real-estate-sellers-do-1031-exchanges-a-conversation-with-jon-hilley.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.