# COP 30 Brazil Reflection #2: Moving forward beyond COP towards impact because the world cannot wait anymore

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Podcast: [Between the East and the West](https://stenobird.com/podcast/between-the-east-and-the-west-6696487)
Published: 2025-11-13T23:00:47+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/meenu-gupta89/episodes/COP-30-Brazil-Reflection-2-Moving-forward-beyond-COP-towards-impact-because-the-world-cannot-wait-anymore-e3auj4t
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## Resource

An except from a conversation between the host Meenu Gupta and Steve Melhuish, an entrepreneur turned impact investor- From the relevance/irrelevance of COP to how entrepreneurs and impact builders are handling the issues of climate change, this conversation is a call to action for a re-think of the model that COP has become.

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