# Disruption (with Dave Stagney) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-ways-of-working-7120345/disruption-with-dave-stagney Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-ways-of-working-7120345/disruption-with-dave-stagney.md Podcast: [Better Ways of Working](https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-ways-of-working-7120345) Published: 2025-10-23T23:59:08+00:00 Episode link: https://bwow.substack.com/p/disruption-with-dave-stagney Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/30e4a3c4efc0769da8a3427cbf94b7de39e4c1a8bf0e147e11aa6f2df5d7096a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlNTQzYmM0MC1hMTBkLTQ5YmItYjJiNS1mNGQwMzg5MzBiZTMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJhYjFlYjgxZi1mMzkxLTQ0MDMtYTA3ZS03NjQ5M2VlMTNlZDAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2M2VmOTJlNGVhODY5ODRiNjhkODg4NTkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvaW1wb3J0cy9wb2RjYXN0cy9hYjFlYjgxZi1mMzkxLTQ0MDMtYTA3ZS03NjQ5M2VlMTNlZDAvZXBpc29kZXMvZTU0M2JjNDAtYTEwZC00OWJiLWIyYjUtZjRkMDM4OTMwYmUzL2VlNmU5MDE1ZjY0NDgwZmIwZDQyNWUyYzdiNjczZTEyLm1wMyJ9.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/better-ways-of-working-7120345/episodes/disruption-with-dave-stagney Duration seconds: 896 ## Resource When I worked for David Stagney , I learned what leadership during disruption really looks like.Dave believes that innovation doesnโ€™t start with new technology โ€” it starts with people who are willing to challenge assumptions. In this episode he talks about how ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ข๐ฌ๐งโ€™๐ญ ๐ฌ๐จ๐ฆ๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐ž๐š๐ซ โ€” ๐ข๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฌ๐ข๐ ๐ง๐š๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎโ€™๐ซ๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฏ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ž๐œ๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง.That perspective shaped how I lead today.Because in every transformation Iโ€™ve seen, the biggest obstacle isnโ€™t resistance โ€” itโ€™s comfort.And leaders like Dave remind us: ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ท๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ.๐Ÿ‘‰ Whoโ€™s a leader that taught you how to face disruption with courage instead of fear? Better Ways of Working is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Better Ways of Working at bwow.substack.com/subscribe ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/better-ways-of-working-7120345/episodes/disruption-with-dave-stagney/transcription-requests` โ€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-ways-of-working-7120345/disruption-with-dave-stagney.md` โ€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.