# Agile at Tesla and SpaceX

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Podcast: [Better Ways of Working](https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-ways-of-working-7120345)
Published: 2026-02-09T00:05:38+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1631

## Resource

The conversation covers Joe Justice's background in inventing agile hardware, his interview at Tesla, challenges in large companies, the concept of skunk works, agile contracting, the Joe DX and Team Launch System, budgeting and contracts in Joe DX, and transparency and fairness in companies. The key takeaways include the concept of agile hardware and the importance of fast iterations in business operations. Takeaways Agile Hardware Fast Iterations Chapters 00:00 Transparency and Fairness in Companies

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