# Matt Kaplan Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-known-789694/matt-kaplan Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-known-789694/matt-kaplan.md Podcast: [Better Known](https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-known-789694) Published: 2026-03-01T18:17:49+00:00 Episode link: https://better-known.zencast.website/episodes/matt-kaplan Audio file: https://media.zencast.fm/better-known/3765ae4c-ca43-48fd-aaaf-146aa4daa542.mp3?source=feed Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/better-known-789694/episodes/matt-kaplan Duration seconds: 1774 ## Resource Matt Kaplan discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. Matt Kaplan is a science correspondent at the Economist. He is the author of The Science of Monsters and Science of the Magical, and co-author of David Attenborough’s First Life: A Journey Through Time. His new book is I Told You So! Scientists who were Ridiculed, Exiled and Imprisoned for Being Right, which is available at https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250372284/itoldyouso/ . The few doctors who worked out that handwashing was essential for preventing the spread of disease were attacked by their peers https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/ignaz-semmelweis-doctor-prescribed-hand-washing George Washington disobeyed direct orders from the Continental Congress and inoculated his troops against smallpox during the Revolutionary War https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/washingtons-war-against-smallpox-revolutionary-inoculation-campaign/ Louis Pasteur was a vicious fellow who engaged in academic fraud. https://cms.viroliegy.com/2022/02/25/louis-pasteurs-unethical-rabies-fraud/ The mild mannered French physician Pierre Alexandre Louis worked out that the common practice of blood-letting was terrible for patients. https://www.grunge.com/812824/the-radical-history-of-bloodletting-explained/ Katalin Kariko https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/scientists-egos-key-barrier-to-progress-covid-vaccine-pioneer-katalin-kariko Experiments exploring novel ideas are getting rarer as the effort needed to get research done steadily goes up https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20180338 This podcast is powered by ZenCast.fm ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/better-known-789694/episodes/matt-kaplan/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/better-known-789694/matt-kaplan.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.