# He Was Sentenced To 213 Years In Prison | Better Bad Ideas w/Sean O'Brien | Ep. 59

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Published: 2026-03-11T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Adam Clausen and Johnny Bartolomeo sit down with Sean this week. Special thanks to our Launch Sponsor, Keches Law Group! Visit https://www.KechesLaw.com for your legal needs. This episode is also brought to you by LaborFirst, the leader in healthcare navigation and advocacy for plan sponsors, union members, and retirees. Visit https://laborfirst.com/ for more information. New episodes of Better Bad Ideas drop every Wednesday! Subscribe and hit the bell to be notified when they go live! Also available where ever you download podcasts! Chapters 00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Adam Clauson’s Story 08:55 - Johnny Bart’s Story 10:02 - Who is Kevin McTaggart? 12:54 - Role Models in Prison 21:19 - Building Reputations 23:16 - Building Programs and Education in Prison 31:09 - How Adam Met his Wife 40:40 - Support Network while in Prison 43:43 - Appealing for release 47:31 - Vacating sentencing 57:19 - Finally Released. What now? 01:01:01 - Teamster Support for ex-convicts 01:03:10 - Teaching AI to Inmates 01:06:38 - Making government programs 01:13:43 - Working in DC. 01:17:08 - Free Kevin McTaggart 01:22:40 - Life right now 01:25:35 - Outro Better Bad Ideas • https://www.instagram.com/betterbadideas • https://www.tiktok.com/@betterbadideas • https://x.com/betterbadideas Subscribe to Better Bad Ideas on Spotify & Apple! • https://open.spotify.com/show/5Br4YZ6h20M6VZGBtIsaBs?si=eaa75a585c7f4ccd • https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/better-bad-ideas-with-sean-obrien/id1786675550 This is a 7EQUIS Network Show http://www.7equis.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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