# Spectator Out Loud: Tim Shipman – with Kemi Badenoch, Justin Marozzi, Christopher Howse & Lara Prendergast

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Podcast: [Best of the Spectator](https://stenobird.com/podcast/best-of-the-spectator-45373)
Published: 2026-06-14T11:16:24+00:00
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## Resource

On this week’s  Spectator Out Loud : Tim Shipman interviews Kemi Badenoch – including excerpts from the interview; Justin Marozzi argues that Trump’s strategy has only strengthened the Iranian regime; Christopher Howse pays tribute to ‘London’s rudest landlord'; and finally, Lara Prendergasts says that ‘matrescence’ is one big con.    Produced and presented by Patrick Gibbons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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