# 139. Are You Chasing Something or  Running from Something

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Podcast: [Below The Circle](https://stenobird.com/podcast/below-the-circle-6619723)
Published: 2026-05-13T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://drphyllishayesreams.com
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## Resource

Are you chasing success, or are you running from the pain you have not named? In this honest and deeply personal episode of Below the Circle , Dr. Phyllis invites you to look at the “buffet” of life, where titles, roles, achievements, and endless yeses can start to feel like proof that you are enough. Through her own story of high achievement, imposter syndrome, betrayal, leadership pressure, COVID-era stress, and a hard landing with God’s help, she shows why the next title will never heal an old wound. This episode is a loving call to stop piling your plate, stop circling above your hurt, and ask one brave question: What am I running from? Peace, joy, and real rest begin when you choose to land. Episode highlights: (0:00) Chasing achievement to feel enough (2:11) The life-changing question: Are you chasing or running? (4:08) Fulfillment, validation, permission, and labels (10:10) Dr. Phyllis shares her personal story (17:49) Medical school, imposter syndrome, and hard seasons (20:13) Workplace betrayal and reopening old wounds (25:56) Leadership, COVID, scleroderma, and burnout (28:19) God’s hard landing and the wake-up call (31:57) Why the chase will never heal the hurt (35:41) The question to sit with this week (37:18) Episode 140 teaser Connect with Dr. Phyllis: http://drphyllishayesreams.com/ https://www.instagram.com/drphyllishayesreams/ https://www.facebook.com/phyllis.hayesreams

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