# Maintaining America's Secret MiGs - Episode 73

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Published: 2026-05-18T21:23:48+00:00
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## Resource

Jim “JB” Bell shares his story from inside one of the Air Force’s most secret Cold War programs, Project Constant Peg. In this episode, Host Rick Crandall talks with Jim “JB” Bell, retired crew chief of the legendary 4477th Test and Evaluation Squadron, about what it took to keep America’s secret MiG fighters flying in the Nevada desert. From maintaining MiG-17s, MiG-21s, and MiG-23s at Tonopah Test Range to flying on unmarked C-5s into China to recover F-7 fighters, Bell offers a rare maintainer’s perspective on one of the most classified adversary air programs in U.S. Air Force history. This one is going to be cool! 🎧 What you’ll hear: How Bell got recruited into Constant Peg: From a chance meeting in a bar at Nellis to joining the secretive 4477th Test and Evaluation Squadron From F-4 Phantom to MiGs: Why working on Soviet fighters was completely different from traditional Air Force maintenance What Constant Peg was built to solve: How Vietnam exposed the need for American pilots to train against real adversary aircraft Learning to fix MiGs with no manuals: Trial and error, machine shops, scrounging parts, and building solutions from scratch MiG-21 vs. MiG-23: Why the MiG-21 was reliable and rugged while the MiG-23 became a constant maintenance challenge The crew chief mindset: What it meant to fully “own” an aircraft and why trust between pilots and maintainers mattered China missions and unmarked C-5s: Traveling to Beijing in civilian clothes to recover Chinese-built F-7 fighters for the program Life at Area 52: Working inside Tonopah Test Range alongside the early stealth programs and living inside a world of total secrecy How Constant Peg changed air combat: Why Bell believes the program saved lives and gave American pilots a critical edge The end of the program…

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