# Ty Herndon & Michael Passons (on Coming Out, Conversion Therapy, Being Kicked Out of Avalon, Dolly, Whitney & Madonna)

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Podcast: [BEHIND THE VELVET ROPE](https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-velvet-rope-532585)
Published: 2026-07-01T09:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Ty Herndon and Michael Passons step Behind The Rope. Ty and Michael stop by to mention it all! Country Music Star Ty Herndon and Christian Music's Avalon Sensation Michael Passons have taken the 90's hit “Testify To Love” and released it to huge fan fare and a #1 spot on the iTunes Charts. They also just worked with Dave Audé for a dance remix complete with a Madonna sample and all. Michael opens up about being kicked out of Avalon for his sexuality, conversion therapy and how the rerelease of Testify has taken on a whole new meaning now that he is out and proud. Ty chats about the ups and downs of the music business and what it means to still be dominating the charts all these decades later. A no holds bar chat about being true to oneself, authenticity, Whitney, Dolly and, of course, Madonna! @tyherndonofficial @michaelpassons @behindvelvetrope @davidyontef BONUS & AD FREE EPISODES Available at - www.patreon.com/behindthevelvetrope BROUGHT TO YOU BY: MYFITNESSPAL - podcasts.myfitnesspal.com (Use Code VELVET, All Upper Case Letters, For 15% Off The Premium App That Will Change Everything For You Regarding Fitness & Nutrition) INDEED - indeed.com/PODCAST (Seventy Five Dollar $75 Sponsored Job Credit To Get Your Job The Premium Status It Deserves) ADVERTISING INQUIRIES - Please contact David@advertising-execs.com MERCH Available at - https://www.teepublic.com/stores/behind-the-velvet-rope?ref_id=13198 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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