# Trade Outside the Box, Featuring Brent Donnelly

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Podcast: [Behind the Markets Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/behind-the-markets-podcast-5498346)
Published: 2026-06-26T00:00:00+00:00
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Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the sharp rotation from growth into value, falling oil prices, stronger-than-expected economic data, and the implications of rising memory chip costs across the technology sector. Professor Siegel also shares his view that lower energy prices should help keep inflation contained, making additional interest rate hikes this year unlikely, while highlighting upcoming labor market, housing, and money supply data as key indicators to watch. (13:23) Jeremy continues with Brent Donnelly to discuss his new book, Trade Outside the Box, and how successful traders can gain an edge by thinking beyond traditional investment frameworks. Brent explains how psychology, poker, creativity, narratives, and behavioral finance influence his trading process, while also discussing the role of AI, market positioning, and sentiment in identifying opportunities. The conversation concludes with insights on market rotations, disciplined risk management, adapting to changing market environments, and the broader life lessons that can be drawn from trading, decision-making, and independent thinking. Read Brent's book: https://a.co/d/09sXk2jA Learn more about Brent: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07NC8MVZZ/about?ccs_id=7f690ca0-41d4-43c0-b13c-b3140b3a8411 WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

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