# Walking Between Two Worlds: A Grounded Conversation on Shamanism with Leslie Wolf Baker Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/becoming-spiritual-7294112/walking-between-two-worlds-a-grounded-conversation-on-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/becoming-spiritual-7294112/walking-between-two-worlds-a-grounded-conversation-on-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker.md Podcast: [Becoming Spiritual](https://stenobird.com/podcast/becoming-spiritual-7294112) Published: 2026-04-24T09:16:36+00:00 Episode link: https://www.becomingspiritual.me/e/walking-between-two-worlds-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xyiy967qh55g62dg/BSP_1035_-_Leslieahuwv.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/becoming-spiritual-7294112/episodes/walking-between-two-worlds-a-grounded-conversation-on-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker Duration seconds: 3626 ## Resource There are ways of knowing that don’t come through logic alone. Intuition, dreams, synchronicity, energy, and the quiet inner signals many of us have been taught to dismiss can all become pathways back to ourselves. In this episode, Heather sits down with Leslie Wolf Baker to explore shamanism through a grounded, accessible lens. Leslie describes shamanism as “walking between two worlds” - the practical world we live in each day and the deeper unseen world of intuition, energy, dreams, and spirit. Together, they explore altered states of consciousness, the healing potential of theta brain states, dream symbolism, spirit guides, power animals, and the role of gratitude in daily life. Leslie also shares her personal path from law librarian to psychotherapist and shamanic practitioner, and how grief became a doorway into deeper remembering. If you’ve ever sensed there is more to life than what can be measured, this conversation offers a thoughtful invitation to trust your own inner knowing and reconnect with the wisdom already within you. Episode Resources: Books discussed this episode: Shaman, Healer, Sage by Albert Villoldo The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner Awakening to the Spirit World by Sandra Ingerman Memories, Dreams and Reflections by Carl Jung Podcasts discussed: Shaman's Cave with Sandra Ingerman About Leslie Leslie Wolf Baker is a licensed psychotherapist and shamanic practitioner who blends modern psychology with ancient healing wisdom. Her work helps people reconnect with intuition, heal old patterns, and access deeper levels of self-understanding through practices such as dream work, journeying, and spiritual inquiry. Connect with Leslie Website: soulutionalchemy.com Instagram: @soulutionalchemy LAST CHANCE TO JOIN US ON RETREAT! If you’ve been craving… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/becoming-spiritual-7294112/episodes/walking-between-two-worlds-a-grounded-conversation-on-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/becoming-spiritual-7294112/walking-between-two-worlds-a-grounded-conversation-on-shamanism-with-leslie-wolf-baker.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.