# 26. How to Pray When You're Struggling (with Kevin Palau)

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Podcast: [Become New with John Ortberg](https://stenobird.com/podcast/become-new-with-john-ortberg-3584281)
Published: 2026-06-08T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What do you do when your soul feels downcast? In this conversation, John Ortberg sits down with Kevin Palau to explore Psalm 42, anxiety, discouragement, emotional honesty, and hope. Kevin shares candidly about his own struggles with anxiety, the pressures of leadership, and why Psalm 42 has become one of the most important prayers in his spiritual life. This episode explores: - Anxiety and spiritual formation - Psalm 42 and emotional honesty - The pressure to appear spiritually strong - F...

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