# Cool Careers in Accounting Ep. 25 - Fraud Part 1: Unmasked: Perpetrators, Prey, and Red Flags with Kelly Richmond Pope

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Published: 2025-12-30T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope joins host Mike Potenza to unpack fraud's ecosystem: the fraud triangle of pressure, opportunity, and rationalization, and the three perpetrator types—intentional, accidental, and righteous. They explore high-profile cases like Bernie Madoff and Enron, to the chilling Robert Courtney chemotherapy dilution scheme, along with everyday scams like receipt "shop listing." Pope frames victims as innocent bystanders and organizational targets, warning how trust, weak controls, and new tech like deepfakes fuel risk. Join us for practical takeaways on how you can watch for red flags and strengthen controls to prevent fraud. Earn CPE by listening to this podcast through a Becker Prime CPE subscription. Listen to this episode through your Becker LMS platform to complete practice questions, pass the final exam, and earn CPE credit. Already a Becker Prime CPE customer? Login here. [https://cpelearning.becker.com/] Have access to Becker CPE through your employer? Earn CPE credit for this podcast however you consume Becker CPE, either through your company's LMS or via the Becker platform. Not sure where to log in? Check with your CPE admin. Learn more about CPE Podcasts from Becker: https://www.becker.com/cpe/becker-podcasts

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