# 364: PDA Through a Problem-Solving Lens: Moving from Power Struggles to Partnership, with Stacey Curnow, LCMHC

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Published: 2026-06-25T00:00:02+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2210

## Resource

"It wasn't a demand, it was just a request. What's so hard about this?" If you’ve thought that about your own kid, you’re not alone, and your nervous system reaction makes complete sense. In this episode, I sit down with Stacey Curnow, LCMHC, founder of Asheville Family Counseling, to talk about PDA: what it is, what it isn't, and why she reframes it as a persistent desire for autonomy rather than a pathology. We get into why even a gentle request can register as a threat to a PDA kid's nervous system, and why fight, flight, freeze, and collapse are really all the same signal wearing different clothes. Stacey walks through Dr. Ross Greene's collaborative and proactive solutions model, why "I won't" is so often actually "I can't," and how slicing requests thinner, asking instead of telling, and choosing connection over compliance changes the outcome of these moments. We also talk about the nervous system math nobody warns you about: when your child's nervous system gets overwhelmed, yours very often does too, and what it looks like to extend that same compassion to yourself. Stacey also shares what it looked like to raise her own PDA-profile son, who is now 21 and reflects that same curiosity and compassion right back to her. If you have a kid who hears "put your shoes on" as a demand, or you are tired of power struggles that feel like two dueling solutions instead of one shared one, this conversation will give you a different lens and some real, doable next steps for moving from power struggles to partnership. Come listen. Not sure where to start with your neurodivergent child? Take the free quiz: parentingadhdandautism.com/quiz Ready to stop collecting strategies and start getting real support? Apply for the SIGNAL Parenting Program: parentingadhdandautism.com/signal…

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