# Angels/Watchers/Nephilim: Are They An Extra-Dimensional Civilization? (Exploring A Bible Theory)

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Podcast: [Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins](https://stenobird.com/podcast/based-camp-simone-malcolm-collins-6378161)
Published: 2026-09-11T11:54:46+00:00
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## Resource

In this Tract Series episode, we review a an argument presented by Graf Herzog Kaiser on X exploring the hypothesis that angels are a distinct extra-dimensional species with their own society, technology, and history. The discussion examines how this view aligns with a serious reading of the Bible, including Genesis 6, the Nephilim, and references in Enoch, while contrasting it with materialist monist and Techno Puritan perspectives. We analyze biblical descriptions of angels in human form, as radiant beings, and as multidimensional entities, along with connections to ancient myths and the Book of Enoch. The conversation highlights the value of open, evidence-based inquiry into scripture and reality, even when hypotheses differ from our own framework. Huge thanks to Graf for the thoughtful and beautifully produced argument! Episode Transcript Malcolm Collins : Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be doing something unique, which is reviewing a fan made video on the track series, which is proposing an alternative hypothesis that angels are a separate, essentially, species. Species is the wrong word. Extra dimensional beings. And I have actually argued this in the past, and people can say, well, that seems to contradict a lot of the other stuff you say about angels or heaven or anything like that. And the reason I wanted to review this is, one, to clarify in my own beliefs, like, what sort of people I think are genuinely trying to figure out what’s true, and I put in the larger umbrella of having beliefs similar to ours and, this techno puritan tree. It’s not about agreeing with whatever we think about the world. It’s about being on a genuine quest to try to determine believing that the bible is a a a serious book saying serious me…

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