# What is Education Actually For? with Ali Ghaffari

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Published: 2026-04-14T20:18:28+00:00
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## Resource

What is education actually for? In this episode, Davies Owens talks with Ali Ghaffari about his remarkable journey from a difficult childhood to flying F-18s in the Navy, teaching leadership at the Naval Academy, founding Divine Mercy Academy, and now helping lead renewal in Catholic education. Together they explore why education must be about formation, not just information, and why strong leadership, parent partnership, and a clear vision are essential for the future of schools.

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