# Brian Kahanek: AI, the Suno Lawsuit & Why Real Music Refuses to Fit in Three Minutes │ BardsFM

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Published: 2026-09-07T23:55:56+00:00
Episode link: https://www.bards.fm/e/brian-kahanek-ai-the-suno-lawsuit-why-real-music-refuses-to-fit-in-three-minutes-%e2%94%82-bardsfm/
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Episode 4217 │ September 7, 2026 A German court ruled that Suno isn't creating music, it's memorizing it. Brian Kahanek says that ruling reshapes the next decade of creative AI. WHAT THIS EPISODE COVERS Scott Kesterson sits down face to face for the first time with Brian Kahanek — former senior audio engineer for Disney and the composer behind tracks in Guitar Hero — recorded during Brian's visit to help build out BardsFM's new studio, opening with a breakdown of a German court ruling against AI music platform Suno that classified its output as memorization rather than creative work, a legal distinction Brian argues will define the next decade of disputes over authorship, accountability, and who bears responsibility when a tool generates content its user then claims as their own. The conversation moves through parallel accountability debates — a guitar string company caught using a fully AI-generated song in an ad while a musician lip-synced along, Fender's aggressive trademark enforcement against small American guitar makers after winning a case against Chinese counterfeiters, and Marshall and Gibson's decline from craftsmanship-driven brands into declining-market products chasing quarterly growth — before landing on Brian's practical distinction: AI is a legitimate tool for a musician who lacks access to session players or a full studio, but a person prompting a song into existence with zero musical background is not a composer, any more than someone reading a special forces manual is a Green Beret. The episode closes on Brian's new album, The Long Return Volume One, four stream-of-consciousness tracks recorded in single unedited takes running up to fifteen minutes each, deliberately breaking the industry's three-to-five-minute format as an act of creative and spirit…

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