# Space Revolution Ep. 27: GHOST in the GARDEN

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-6674661)
Published: 2026-07-16T05:38:16+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/space-revolution-ep-27-ghost-in-the-garden/
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## Resource

Ghost and Chris Ponder join Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Steven L. Kwast for a genuinely fun one, recorded live from Madison Square Garden, where the trio starts unveiling a "rule set" designed to help ordinary people triangulate truth without needing a physics degree. Think of it like a calculator: you don't need to understand the circuitry to trust the math. Chris walks everyone through a diagram built from an X laid over a plus sign, forming an octagon, and starts defining the core building blocks: life, logic, space, and spectrum, using ancient Egypt as the working example. Ghost brings the analogies, Chris brings the framework, and Steve ties it all back to the bigger mission of turning space and information into tools for discernment. It's the first bite of what promises to be a much bigger conversation, so expect homework, patience, and a slow build toward something worth understanding fully.

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