# Space Revolution Ep. 19: Time Travel, Outer Space, Inner Space

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-6674661)
Published: 2026-05-21T01:03:34+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/space-revolution-ep-19-time-travel-outer-space-inner-space/
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## Resource

Cam Cooksey shows up with the question every kid secretly wants to ask. Is space real? And if it is, what even is it? Lt Gen (Ret.) Steven L. Kwast pulls out a scale-of-the-universe chart and walks Cam from the size of a sunflower out to Andromeda, then all the way down to quarks and quantum strings. The takeaway: you are connected to all of it, top to bottom. From there the conversation gets philosophical in the best way. Kwast lays out the decision-making framework he teaches future leaders. Start with an opinion, hold it with humility, then test it against the facts. His own starting opinion is that there is one God who made an infinite universe so we could love, explore, and grow. They tackle time travel (probably possible, probably unwise), the early 90s vertical takeoff rocket technology that will let you fly New York to Singapore in 37 minutes, and the deep state lie that the planet is too full. The closer, from Cam, is the line of the episode. Before you try to figure out outer space, focus on inner space first.

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