# Culture of Change Ep. 156: Charlie Kirk's Final Interview

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Published: 2026-07-28T04:06:21+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/culture-of-change-ep-156-charlie-kirks-final-interview/
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## Resource

Ashe in America welcomes back Matt Thayer, co-founder of Spiro Pictures and the filmmaker behind "Selection Code," for a two part conversation. First up, a new documentary featuring one of Charlie Kirk's final interviews, premiering exclusively on Salem Now September 10th, exploring whether God still speaks and whether anyone is still listening. Matt talks about the making of the film and what it was like capturing Kirk's last recorded thoughts. From there, the conversation pivots to the freshly released election disclosures, tying back to Matt's earlier work on Tina Peters and "Selection Code." Ashe and Matt dig into the machines, the vendors, and the decades long pattern that has them convinced elections are not what they seem, all without turning it into a lecture. Expect a mix of faith, film, and hard hitting election talk, plus a look at what Matt has planned next for Spiro Pictures. A handful of Badlands sponsor shoutouts round out the show.

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