# Baseless Conspiracies Ep. 189: The GATE Program, CIA Child Training and a Butler Rally Theory

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-6674661)
Published: 2026-06-16T05:27:02+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/baseless-conspiracies-ep-189-the-gate-program-cia-child-training-and-a-butler-rally-theory/
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Jon Herold and Zak Paine open Episode 189 with a quick detour into a viral Sasquatch video (probably AI, possibly a guy in a suit) before tackling the newly released four-page ODNI report on global bioweapons labs and what it might mean for Anthony Fauci's accountability. A short segment pulled from Candace Owens covers a theory connecting the 2022 death of a man named Mark Liedy, who allegedly stole the explosive PETN from his job, his confidant Corey Comperatore (the firefighter killed at the Trump assassination attempt in Butler), and the Hezbollah pager bombing operation. Then the main event: the gifted and talented education program, known as GATE, and its possible ties to CIA mind development research. Jon walks through demographic and physical traits reported among former participants, binaural beats and Hemi-Sync training tracing back to the Monroe Institute's Gateway Program, code-breaking and Russian language worksheets given to grade schoolers, and the story of a friend who was approached by men claiming to be FBI agents decades after his own time in the program. The episode also covers Chase Brandon, who became a CIA officer at 18, spent decades undercover, and later became Hollywood's official CIA liaison.

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