# The No Treason Podcast Ep. 38: Justice Story, Natural Law, and the Ether

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327)
Published: 2026-07-13T05:06:05+00:00
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## Resource

Jonathan Drake returns fresh off a conversation about teleporting airplanes, Ashton Forbes, and the Ether before circling back to Lysander Spooner's Section Four. This week's target is Justice Joseph Story, the man who apparently thinks the average American is too "prejudiced, passionate, and capricious" to know right from wrong, despite owing his entire career to those same supposedly clueless people. Jon breaks down why that argument collapses under its own weight, then walks through Spooner's case that natural law isn't some legal priesthood's secret scripture, it's something toddlers figure out before they can talk. Expect firewood geometry, a Seinfeld reference, some Trinity theology, and a firm reminder that consent is rooted in something a lot deeper than the Constitution. Stick around for Loaded Gun Coffee, All Good by Jessica Storm, and another round of Soft Disclosure's gloriously unhinged ads.

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