# The Narrative Ep. 73: Devolution Evolution II

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327)
Published: 2026-07-13T05:16:10+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/the-narrative-ep-73-devolution-evolution-ii/
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## Resource

Burning Bright sits down with Jon Herold for round two of Devolution Evolution, timed to the five year anniversary of the original Devolution series. They go back to the source material and revisit the core theory in light of everything that has happened since, from the second Trump term to the upcoming midterms and the SAVE Act. Expect a real retrospective here, not just a highlight reel: they dig into whether the current dynamic between Trump and the other two branches of government tracks with the old framework, talk through the psychological warfare side of the series, and riff on the National Continuity Policy along the way. There is plenty of trademark banter mixed in too, including some fully committed Q decoder bits. If you found Badlands through the original Devolution series, this one is built for you. If you did not, it is a solid entry point into why it mattered.

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