# Spellbreakers Ep. 181: 250 Years Since September 11, 1776

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Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327)
Published: 2026-09-12T06:56:21+00:00
Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/spellbreakers-ep-181-250-years-since-september-11-1776/
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## Resource

Recording on the 25th anniversary of 9/11, host Matt Trump opens with a haunting cover of "Mad World" and admits he dreaded this anniversary, then found he had more to say than expected. Rather than re-litigate what happened that day, he sits with the harder question: what exactly did the country lose, and why does 25 years feel like an emotional watershed. As a former New Yorker who lived on Staten Island, he gets personal, honoring the Rescue 5 firefighters from his old neighborhood. Then comes the clever pivot promised in the title. Exactly 250 years earlier, on September 11, 1776, Staten Island's Conference House hosted a doomed peace conference where Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and Edward Rutledge met Lord Howe. Trump ties the Revolution's uncertain early days to today's fight for the country. Expect reflection, history, Building 7 skepticism, and one very persistent chat troll.

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