# Space Revolution Ep. 20: The Secret Race to Space Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space.md Podcast: [Badlands Media](https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327) Published: 2026-05-28T01:28:45+00:00 Episode link: https://badlandsmedia.podbean.com/e/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/24mugg469q6ge4es/Space_Revolution_Ep_20_1_94ylx.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/badlands-media-5934327/episodes/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space Duration seconds: 3201 ## Resource Most Americans have no idea there is a space race going on, and that's exactly how the other side wants it. Lt Gen (Ret.) Steven L. Kwast is joined by his longtime colleague and one of the sharpest strategic minds in the country, Dr. Peter Garretson, author of Scramble for the Skies, The Next Space Race, and Space Shock. The framing lands like a punch. If the United States shut down NASA tomorrow, China would not even slow down. Their crawl, walk, run plan for solar system dominance runs independent of us. And the prize is staggering: a million times more material than Earth, a billion times more energy, an industrial base that would make the arsenal of democracy look quaint. Garretson and Kwast walk through asteroid mining, lunar space elevators, mass drivers, solar power satellites, and Gerald O'Neill's Island 3 habitats that could host ten trillion humans. They also bury the Club of Rome scarcity myth, explain why frontier closure made America pessimistic, and close with a charge: get these books into the hands of every young person under thirty. The door to the future is open. We just have to walk through it. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/badlands-media-5934327/episodes/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/badlands-media-5934327/space-revolution-ep-20-the-secret-race-to-space.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.