# Promo Episode 580 - A.I. Sore (w/ Dr. Margo Paez & Jae Holzman)

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Podcast: [Bad Faith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bad-faith-1365797)
Published: 2026-06-01T07:14:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/159795811?pr=true
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Duration seconds: 448

## Resource

Dr. Margo Paez, an expert on climate change modeling & water resources & fellow at the Bitcoin policy institute, joins with Jae Holzman, a journalist reporting on climate change for Heatmap news, for a surprising conversation about AI data centers and how they're being litigated across the political identity spectrum. Subscribe to Bad Faith on Patreon to listen in full. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for an extended video clip of this episode that's longer than this promo. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod) . Produced by Armand Aviram . Theme by Nick Thorburn (@ nickfromislands ).

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