# Episode 565 - The Black Capitalism Trap (w/ Dr. Jared Ball, Paul Prescod, & Q. Anthony Ali)

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Podcast: [Bad Faith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bad-faith-1365797)
Published: 2026-04-09T13:09:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 6563

## Resource

Last week, a 20 minute debate about the merits of capitalism went mega viral, with Professor Marc Lamont Hill singularly defending socialism against a panel of co-hosts on the popular Joe Budden podcast. The former rapper and other panelists raised common objections to, and misunderstandings of, socialism, and exposed a particular commitment to Black capitalism that leftists must reckon with in order to change public consciousness. To that end, Morgan State professor of Africana & Media Studies & host of the I Mix What I Like! podcast, Dr. Jared Ball, Labor Notes staffer & Jacobin contributing editor Paul Prescod, & independent journalist Q. Anthony Ali join Bad Faith to break it all down. [9:00 AM] Note that YouTube won't allow us to post the clips from Joe Budden podcast. In addition to listening to it here, you can watch it in full here: https://x.com/TheFilesWithDUB/status/2038580072622260521?s=20 We're also uploading a video version with embedded clips to Bad Faith Patreon for free. Be sure to Bad Faith on Patreon so you don't miss the upload. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod) . Produced by Armand Aviram . Theme by Nick Thorburn (@ nickfromislands ).

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