# Episode 559 - Bad Words (w/ Susan Abulhawa)

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Podcast: [Bad Faith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bad-faith-1365797)
Published: 2026-03-19T07:32:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-559-bad-153406730
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## Resource

Last week, Palestinian-American author, scientist, and activist Susan Abulhawa made national headlines after the Zionist press attempted to tie her online posts criticizing Israel's apartheid and genocide with Zohran Mamdani's wife Rama Duwaji as part of an attempted smear campaign: Rama had illustrated a short story that was part of a collection Abulhawa helped to compile and edit. In response to the hit-job on Rama, Zohran distanced himself from Abulhawa, calling her posts "reprehensible" and "patently unacceptable." But were they? And were leftists like Zohran and others strategically or morally justified in throwing her under the bus? Susan took to Twitter with a 20 minute response to the contraversy, but for the first time, on Bad Faith podcast, she's opening up in an interview about what happened. In conversation with Briahna, she puts her comments into context -- describing the humiliation of Zionist oppression growing up in an orphanage in Jerusalem -- and she challenges the notion that there's any language 'too strong' to describe the gravity of Israel's oppression. Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod) . Produced by Armand Aviram . Theme by Nick Thorburn (@ nickfromislands ).

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