# 8 Ways Trip Planners Get the SHAFT with JOHN KELLEY

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Podcast: [Backpacking & Blisters: A Hiking, Backpacking, and Adventure Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/backpacking-blisters-a-hiking-backpacking-and-adventure-show-9316)
Published: 2026-03-30T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

John Kelley joins the show to discuss 8 ways trip planners get the shaft. Are some of this avoidable if you sprinkle in a bit of wisdom and common sense? Yes. Are some unavoidable? Yes. Find out what you should beware if you’re trip planner. Or, find out how to not sabotage a backpacking trip if you’re not.

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