# How can the media win back our trust? w/ Ed Lee, Joi Lee & Isaac Saul

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Podcast: [Backlight](https://stenobird.com/podcast/backlight-6136461)
Published: 2026-05-06T11:52:20+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lighthouse-reports/episodes/How-can-the-media-win-back-our-trust--w-Ed-Lee--Joi-Lee--Isaac-Saul-e3iv7tg
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## Resource

Trust in the media is at an all-time low. So what’s going wrong? Who’s actually fixing it? And what can we learn from alternative news models emerging around the world? To tackle these questions, Beatriz and Tessa speak with Ed Lee, who led the New York Times Trust Team, independent journalist Joi Lee and Isaac Saul, founder of Tangle News. Hosts: Beatriz Ramalho da Silva, Tessa Pang Sound editing and design: Elli Xypolitaki / Spoovio Music by mobygratis Website - X - BlueSky - Instagram - and you can email us at backlight@lighthousereports.com

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