# The Trimesters of Grief with Katie Rizzo.

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Podcast: [Awaken Your Soul's Journey](https://stenobird.com/podcast/awaken-your-soul-s-journey-6726458)
Published: 2026-07-13T06:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://awaken-your-soul.captivate.fm
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Angela interviews science teacher and memoirist Katie Rizzo, who lost her firstborn son Nicholas to addiction on September 17, 2024 after years of opioid dependence, and describes how Al‑Anon and grief support groups helped her survive. Katie explains her framework from her forthcoming memoir, The Trimesters of Grief (Kohler Books), comparing mourning to pregnancy: early nausea and disorientation, a numb second stage where others “return to normal,” and a third stage where grief becomes visible as she shares openly and begins writing poetry to reach her son. She discusses Nick Cave’s idea of letting grief sit beside you, tending it through daily poetry, exercise, community, creativity, and saying yes to connection, while also addressing stigma around addiction and the ongoing reality of living with a permanent hole. https://katierizzo.com/ https://www.facebook.com/rizzoboysandagirl/ https://www.instagram.com/katierizzo007/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-rizzo-098978280/ https://www.tiktok.com/@katie.rizzo007

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