# Do You Actually Need an ATP to Fly Commercially? The Answer Might Surprise You

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Podcast: [Aviation Mentors](https://stenobird.com/podcast/aviation-mentors-5653607)
Published: 2026-02-21T04:18:01+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/aviationmentors/2566034
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Do you actually need an ATP to fly commercially? The answer depends on how you're flying — and it might surprise you. ✈️ In this episode of the Aviation Mentors Podcast, Brandon and Carson break down one of the most misunderstood regulatory questions in aviation after a real JSX flight from Scottsdale sparks the debate. They cover: Why Part 121 requires both pilots to hold an ATP, Part 135 requires only the captain, and Part 91 requires neither How JSX uses Part 380 and Delux Public Charter to legally operate 30-seat jets under Part 135 instead of Part 121 — and why Southwest is fighting to shut it down What the ATP-CTP course actually covers — proper checklist usage, proper crew management in a 121 setting, and passenger comfort — and why having it early might give you a slight leg up, though Brandon and Carson agree you'd need to ask a recruiter for a real answer Why Part 135 and Part 91 pilots have no mandatory retirement age and can legally fly as long as they can pass a medical 🛩️ Looking to charter a private jet, turboprop, or aircraft? Connect with Antonio Ferrara, a trusted Part 135 broker featured in this episode: https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonio-ferrara-161103170/ 🚁 Also check out XPCE — the innovative drone company Brandon is advising, specializing in waterproof and fishing drones: https://xpece.com ✈️ Is your flight school looking for new branding? Check out Parallel Marketing — now officially live and specializing in aviation industry branding: 🌐 https://parallelmarketingcompany.com 💼 https://www.linkedin.com/company/parallel-marketing-company/ 🚀 Whether you're a student pilot, private pilot, or general aviation enthusiast trying to make sense of the FARs, Brandon and Carson break it all down in plain language — straight from a real conversation that st…

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