# Waymo Upstages Uber’s Party: Avride’s Debut & The Reality of Scaling

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Published: 2025-12-06T16:49:50+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lightshed-ventures5/episodes/Waymo-Upstages-Ubers-Party-Avrides-Debut--The-Reality-of-Scaling-e3bvl1g
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This week on Autonomy Markets , Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss "Thriller in the Big D" as Waymo upstages Uber’s party in Dallas. The day before Uber was set to announce its commercial launch with Avride in Dallas, Waymo stole the spotlight by announcing they went driver-out in the same city. During the episode Grayson and Walt analyzed the fallout from this timing, including Uber’s "marketing fail" where a safety driver was spotted in promotional footage, and debate whether Avride’s limited 9-square-mile launch is a legitimate business move or just another "science project". Beyond the drama in Texas, they dove into the broader race to scale, questioning if adding a few hundred cars in new markets Houston, Baltimore, and St. Louis truly counts as commercial scaling. As Waymo announces new markets, Sterling Anderson is aggressively hiring at GM and the autonomous trucking market is beginning to heat up. Episode Chapters 0:00 The Thriller in Big D featuring Waymo, Avride and Uber 5:17 Autonomous Vehicle Messaging 7:01 Avride / Uber's Dallas Service Area 10:14 No New Waymo/Uber Markets, So Far 13:50 Waymo's Rapid Expansion 18:56 Waymo's Six Stages of Autonomy 20:26 No Waymo Commercial Launch for Art Basel 21:49 Will Tesla Robotaxis Ever Be Available on Uber? 23:06 FSD Updates 25:00 Sterling Anderson's Growing Role at GM 29:04 Wayve Acquires Quality Match 29:41 Foreign Autonomy Desk 30:13 Waymo's Continuing Zeekr Issue 32:21 Autonomous Trucking 33:50 Next Week Autonomy is transforming industries and creating an entirely new economy that we call the autonomy economy™. The Road to Autonomy provides advisory and market intelligence services that helps you better understand the market and stay ahead of what’s coming next. To learn more, say hello (at) roadtoautonomy.…

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