# JORN and high frequency technologies in Australia and North America with BAE Systems Australia

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Podcast: [Australian Defence Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/australian-defence-magazine-podcast-444038)
Published: 2026-07-28T19:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.australiandefence.com.au/podcasts
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## Resource

In this episode, Grant McHerron visits BAE Systems Australia (BAESA) at Edinburgh Parks to talk with Ashley Searl, Director of Strategic Surveillance, and Nathan Herrmann, HF Sensing Program Director, about the Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) and the recently confirmed sale of Over The Horizon Radar (OTHR) technology to Canada. We begin our discussion by reviewing the history of JORN, starting from early experiments in the 1950s with high-frequency signals and progressing to the current three sites in WA, NT and QLD being controlled from RAAF Base Edinburgh. We then cover the current activities on JORN, including its enhancement project and midlife upgrade (Project Air 2025 Phase 6), where BAESA is the prime integrator collaborating closely with the Defence Science and Technology Group. Moving on to the recent sale of JORN to Canada we cover how the sale was established, the changes that will be required to accommodate polar operations, Canada's own research into OTHR systems, and BAESA's involvement in delivering the solution. We also discuss BAESA's exports of high frequency products to the USA along with the importance of export sales to maintaining and recruiting the skilled workforce. We wrap up with an assessment of the future for OTHR sales and opportunities in other areas of the world. Links: BAE Systems’ OTHR and high frequency technology overview https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/over-the-horizon-radar-and-high-frequency-technology BAE Systems' JORN Overview https://www.baesystems.com/en-aus/product/jorn Canada to sign major JORN deal https://www.australiandefence.com.au/news/news/canada-to-sign-major-jorn-deal NOTE: This episode was sponsored by BAE Systems. ------------------ The ADM Podcast is produced by Southern Skies Media on behalf of Aus…

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