# On different forms of argumentation

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Podcast: [Athens and Jerusalem (in Education)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/athens-and-jerusalem-in-education-6714615)
Published: 2025-08-12T15:41:56+00:00
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In this episode, we discuss different ways to argue about the relationship between religion and science. The most typical approach is to use religious premises to prove scientific facts or to use scientific premises to prove religious beliefs. Steven argues for a more circular form of argumentation, unfolding axioms that must serve as both the conclusion and the premise. A fourth way of arguing could be to explore the tacit knowledge of reality, experiencing the wonder of life and one’s own existence.

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