Episode
AUA: Can Internal Transformation Teams Really Drive Change?
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- At Work with The Ready
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- Dec 22, 2025
- Duration seconds
- 467
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Summary
Many people who want to work in organizational change hit the same question: is it better to do this work from inside an organization, or from the outside as a consultant? In this AUA mini episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin respond to a listener who’s considering a career shift into org change and wrestling with whether internal transformation teams can really drive meaningful change—or whether outside consultants have more leverage. They unpack why internal org design teams are often constrained by design, where they can work when positioned well (hint: it’s probably not HR), and why external consulting offers faster learning through sheer volume of reps. They also explore how you can start doing work design and change work without holding a formal transformation title. Hear the episode this question was in response to: AWWTR Ep. 28 Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at [email protected] -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk! Get our newsletter: Sign up here. Follow us: LinkedIn Instagram -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of Coupe Studios.