# Ups and Downs

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Podcast: [At The Letters](https://stenobird.com/podcast/at-the-letters-829227)
Published: 2026-05-04T19:17:42+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/at-the-letters/
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## Resource

What better way to cap a 22-games-in-23-days stretch than with a visit to the Trop? Fresh off the road, Arden checks in to look ahead to this week’s Rays series (01:21) before recounting what he saw from the Blue Jays in Minneapolis (07:53), including thoughts on Kazuma Okamoto’s heater (16:23), Dylan Cease’s changeup development (44:15), and what happened between John Schneider and Tyler Heineman (53:41). This podcast is produced and sound engineered by Christian Ryan and hosted by Arden Zwelling. Contact us: attheletters@sportsnet.ca The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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