# Ep 5: What does it take to deliver 6 nines resilience and how does AI fit in? With Jon Berger

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Published: 2026-04-30T10:45:18+00:00
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## Resource

Anne & networking expert Jon Berger discuss the difficulties of understanding exponentials and how that leads to challenges when it comes to setting targets for both resilience and efficiency. If you wonder why people have no real clue about the nines resilience scale, this is why.

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