# How Trump Plans to Gut the Environment to Pay for Iran (w/Ayana Elizabeth Johnson)

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Podcast: [Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams](https://stenobird.com/podcast/assembly-required-with-stacey-abrams-6977119)
Published: 2026-04-07T07:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

While the war with Iran rages on, President Trump has asked Congress for a $1.5 trillion Pentagon budget, offset in part by further draconian cuts to environmental programs. This week, Stacey is joined by marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, to talk about what climate scientists and activists can still do in the face of an administration that pretends the climate crisis doesn’t exist. They talk about the environmental impacts of military conflict, how race plays into climate politics, and how local action is a powerful frontier when fighting the crisis. With Earth Day and the paperback release of Johnson’s book, “What If We Get It Right?” coming up, they also focus on reframing the conversation around what is possible if we continue to fight for change. For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here . For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast. Learn & Do More: Be Curious: Pick up a copy of Dr. Johnson’s smart, action-oriented book “ What If We Get It Right: Visions of Climate Futures ” Solve Problems: Join a local group like Sunrise Movement (for youth), Third Act (for seniors), and Citizens Climate Lobby , 350.org , Surfrider , and the Sierra Club for everyone. And finally, visit the Environmental Voter Project at environmentalvoter.org to donate and get involved. Together, you can let your state and local electeds know it is time for city governments to take the lead when it comes to protecting our climate and environment, and demand that candidates for local office commit to supporting pro-environmental policies. The fossil fuel industry is often inadvertently financed by us through our investment portfolios. Make sure to take a closer look at where your money is and divest fro…

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