# A Conversation with Award-Winning Professor of Law Ming Chen, the Harry & Lillian Hastings Research Chair at UC Law SF Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/asian-american-history-101-3066911/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/asian-american-history-101-3066911/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf.md Podcast: [Asian American History 101](https://stenobird.com/podcast/asian-american-history-101-3066911) Published: 2026-06-01T07:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://asianamericanhistory101.libsyn.com/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-amp-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/asianamericanhistory101/6-22_A_Conversation_with_Award-Winning_Professor_of_Law_Ming_Chen_the_Harry__Lillian_Hastings_Research_Chair_at_UC_Law_SF.mp3?dest-id=2498237 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/asian-american-history-101-3066911/episodes/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf Duration seconds: 2292 ## Resource Welcome to Season 6, Episode 22! Professor Ming Hsu Chen is the Harry & Lillian Hastings Research Chair and Faculty-Director of the Race, Immigration, Citizenship, and Equality Program , University of California Law, San Francisco. Chen teaches courses in constitutional law, citizenship, immigration, and race. She brings a socio-legal perspective to the study of race, immigration, and the administrative state. With the upcoming decision on Trump vs. Barbara, the constitutionality of Executive Order 14160 is in question. This case which has the potential to redefine birthright citizenship may have a huge impact on 14th Amendment and the rights of tens of thousands of people born in the country to immigrant parents. She is also the author of Pursuing Citizenship in the Enforcement Era (Stanford University Press, 2020) and speaks widely on birthright citizenship… including giving a TEDx Talk in 2020 based on her book. In our conversation we talk about the 14th Amendment, Wong Kim Ark, Executive Order 14160 and Trump vs Barbara, how questions of the unknown drives fear, Constitutional Originalists, and so much more. If you like what we do, please share, follow, and like us in your podcast directory of choice or on Instagram @AAHistory101 . For previous episodes and resources, please visit our site at https://asianamericanhistory101.libsyn.com or our links at http://castpie.com/AAHistory101 . If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, email us at info@aahistory101.com . ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/asian-american-history-101-3066911/episodes/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/asian-american-history-101-3066911/a-conversation-with-award-winning-professor-of-law-ming-chen-the-harry-lillian-hastings-research-chair-at-uc-law-sf.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.