# Treasures, Play, and the Pitfalls of Excellence with Joshua Adam Risner

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Podcast: [Artists of the Way](https://stenobird.com/podcast/artists-of-the-way-6383777)
Published: 2025-11-15T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode Jon and Nate speak with Joshua Adam Risner. He is a professional painter and the artist in residence at the Michigan State Capitol. Together they discuss the pursuit of excellence and beauty in art, the struggles of balancing that pursuit with our dependence on God, and the importance of play and joy in art. Check out Josh's art:  https://www.joshuaadamart.com/​ Check out Josh's Studio: https://www.rabbithillartstudio.com/​

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