# The Art of AI Conversation with Jonathan Mast Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast.md Podcast: [AI Real Talk: The Curiosity Connection](https://stenobird.com/podcast/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905) Published: 2025-07-26T07:41:00+00:00 Episode link: https://avisionforlearning.com/episodes/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/81f018f2/fd483c5c.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905/episodes/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast Duration seconds: 971 ## Resource In this episode, host Eli interviews Jonathan Mast, a leading expert in AI prompting. Jonathan shares his journey into AI, starting with the advent of ChatGPT, and discusses the importance of utilizing AI tools like ChatGPT, MidJourney, Claude, and Perplexity for business growth. He introduces a simple four-step AI prompt framework and emphasizes the need for iterative communication to get the most out of AI. Jonathan also addresses misconceptions about AI's complexity and its ethical considerations, advocating for its integration in education and other fields. The episode concludes with Jonathan providing insights into leveraging AI for deep research and practical applications. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by Renaissance and IXL. Learn more about Renaissance: As a global leader in education technology operating in more than 110 countries, Renaissance is committed to providing educators with insights and resources to accelerate growth and help all students build a strong foundation for success. We believe that technology can unlock a more effective learning experience, ensure that students get the personalized teaching they need to thrive, and help educators and administrators to truly, fully, See Every Student. Learn more at renaissance.com . IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more: Simplify and streamline technology Save teachers’ time Reliably meet Tier 1 standards Improve student performance on state assessments 🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE t… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905/episodes/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/artificial-intelligence-real-talk-6759905/the-art-of-ai-conversation-with-jonathan-mast.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.