# We Have More Work to Do With Tim Banks

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Podcast: [Arrested DevOps](https://stenobird.com/podcast/arrested-devops)
Published: 2022-03-02T04:06:44+00:00
Episode link: https://www.arresteddevops.com/we-have-work-to-do/
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## Resource

The tech industry is facing a talent crisis driven by a widening gap between 'tech industry' workers and 'tech workers' in traditional sectors. Organizations that fail to modernize their culture and remote work policies risk losing their most skilled employees to more flexible competitors.

## Highlights
- Main idea: A structural divide is forming between the flexible 'tech industry' and 'tech workers' embedded in traditional sectors like pharma or finance
- Failure mode: Maintaining 'bimodal IT'—where some teams are modern and others are legacy—creates friction and drives talent attrition
- Practical takeaway: Companies must move beyond just 'surviving' the pandemic era and actively address cultural stagnation to retain skilled engineers
- Main idea: Remote work flexibility is now a primary differentiator in the labor market, making it harder for traditional firms to compete for talent
- Practical takeaway: True inclusivity in the DevOps community requires intentional effort to dismantle gatekeeping and geographic barriers

## Topics

DevOps, Tech Talent Attrition, Remote Work, Bimodal IT, Organizational Culture, Software Engineering Management, Digital Transformation, Workforce Trends

## Chapters
- 5:20 — Reflecting on the Post-Pandemic Landscape: A look back at the shifts in the DevOps landscape and the unpredictability of the years following 2020.
- 9:45 — The Shift in Organizational Beliefs: Discussing why organizations are struggling to move away from old management models and the impact of real estate interests.
- 13:50 — Burnout and Cultural Stagnation: Analyzing how the failure of management to adjust to changing workforce needs has led to widespread burnout and attrition.
- 18:00 — The Talent Mobility Problem: How the availability of remote options allows tech workers to leave traditional companies for more flexible environments.
- 22:00 — The Tech Industry vs. Tech Workers: Distinguishing between the high-flexibility tech sector and the more rigid environments of traditional industries.
- 26:15 — Legacy Mindsets in Modern DevOps: Examining the disconnect between modern DevOps practices and the reality of how many companies still operate.
- 33:55 — The Cost of Stagnation: How companies that prioritize stability over innovation lose their most impactful engineers to more dynamic organizations.
- 50:10 — Driving Positive Change: The necessity of having difficult conversations about technology, inclusivity, and the future of the industry.

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