# "The Morning Show" | Head, Heart and Body

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Podcast: [Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508)
Published: 2026-05-04T11:04:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.aroundthecircle.org/episodes/
Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/c29d460f-fdea-4343-8cfd-5cca4a1a1776.mp3
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## Resource

In this episode of The Morning Show , Jeff Cook, Kristin Messegee, and Jackie Contessa explore the three centers of intelligence in the Enneagram—head, heart, and body—but with a broader lens than usual. Instead of focusing only on dominant or repressed centers, the conversation examines how each person relates to all three, and what balance across them might actually look like. They break down each center: the body as presence, boundaries, and action; the heart as identity, connection, and significance; and the head as discernment, strategy, and anticipation of the future. Along the way, they connect these ideas to the nervous system, emotional patterns like anger, shame, and fear, and the practical challenge of moving beyond automatic reactions. The discussion also turns toward growth—what it means to develop non-dominant centers, how that creates real freedom and choice, and why over-reliance on one center can become limiting. The episode closes with a larger debate about individual work, community, and what true integration looks like in everyday life.

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