# Shame and Guilt | "Atlas of the Heart" | Chapter 8

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Podcast: [Around the Circle | An Enneagram Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/around-the-circle-an-enneagram-channel-86508)
Published: 2026-08-09T17:35:00+00:00
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## Resource

JOIN US ON TUESDAY NIGHTS : HERE What happens when falling short becomes a verdict about who we are? In this episode of the Reading Room, Jeff continues through Brené Brown’s Atlas of the Heart , exploring shame, guilt, humiliation, embarrassment, perfectionism, and self-compassion. We look at Brown’s distinction between “I did something bad” and “I am bad,” why empathy can disrupt shame, and how perfectionism can turn achievement into a measure of our worth. The conversation also pushes into Enneagram territory: Do different types experience shame differently? When does healthy striving become perfectionism? And if we are not what we accomplish, where should we locate our value? A conversation about failure, empathy, connection, achievement, and learning to make room for being imperfect. #Enneagram #BreneBrown #AtlasOfTheHeart #Perfectionism #Shame

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