# From Satan to Sarmat

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Podcast: [Arms Control Wonk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/arms-control-wonk-923560)
Published: 2026-05-28T02:34:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2113

## Resource

Russia tested the RS-28 Sarmat heavy ICBM, which will replace the SS-18/RS-36M Satan. What's it for? Aaron and Jeffrey talk about the role of heavy ICBMs, the foundational assumption for counterforce, the rise of orbital bombardment systems (FOBS!!!!!!!!), the collapse of the ABM Treaty and the future of space-based interceptors. Support us over at Patreon.com/acwpodcast !

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