# Transforming Life and Business through Permaculture: Ethics, Zones, and Real-World Applications with Jamie Hardy

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Podcast: [Are We There Yet?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/are-we-there-yet-6687096)
Published: 2025-10-22T16:00:00+00:00
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Who are we without a living relationship to place and community? How do we measure progress in ways that keep people and systems alive? Season 3 of Are We There Yet? opens with an exploration of what it means to live off the land—metaphorically, physically, collectively. Despite being creatures who created rich cultural traditions rooted in ancestral place, we are also now global citizens, and for many our connection to land has been fractured, potentially altering who we are as a species. So what does it mean to “return to the land” in a modern, digitized life? With each new episode, Season 3 will focus on the lessons we can learn from permaculture—a modern philosophy built on indigenous traditions co-developed over millennia as we evolved in our environment—as both a land-based practice and a framework for living. Within a structure provided by the twelve principles of permaculture, hosts Sonja Ernst and Jamie Hardy discuss how the philosophy’s core ethics—Earth care, people care, and fair share—extend beyond gardening to shape business, communication, and personal growth in ways that will help shape our future for the better.

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